Kasinon avslutar spelare med säte i Tyskland (sida 2)

I'm really wondering how it's going to develop in Germany. It's not a small market that anyone could afford to simply neglect. Germany is one of the most important markets in Europe so they should hurry up to find a solution 🙂

They lose a lot of tax money as most people looking for ways around it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind paying a bit more tax if they let me put more than 1 Euro in a spin.

Top Bundesliga Player, who are idols to millions of children, still do ads for Betting sites on TV. It's officially illegal since the 1.7. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

Who is it? Lewandowski?

I honestly don't know. I don't know that much about football to put names on faces

Utvecklingen här i Tyskland just nu är verkligen otrolig. Jag har ingen aning om vad denna styrka har att göra med demokrati (och med det menar jag inte nödvändigtvis rätten till självbestämmande). Jag är inte heller säker på om Leudz verkligen kontrollerar vad som händer här. Även med risk för att upprepa mig kommer jag att sammanfatta det igen:

• Anonyma alternativ för penningöverföring avskaffas gradvis (t.ex. Paysafecard, Neosurf etc.)
• Förvärv och lagring av ALLA spelardata som spelats in på licensierade kasinon (inklusive vadhållningsstrategier, vadslagning och spelbeteende -> krav som är förankrade i kontraktet för att skapa en säker server, samt att ansluta till den centrala filen.
• drastisk minskning av vinstmöjligheterna genom att sänka RTP, "reglering" av insatsbeloppet & sist men inte minst genom att ta bort vinstrelevanta spel (jackpot / bord / live)
• För spelare blir spel online så oattraktivt som möjligt (5 sek regel etc.)
• saftig beskattning av onlinekasinon
• de nya begränsningarna gäller INTE statliga kasinon, lotterier etc.

Så här har vi en statligt organiserad skydd av de likaså statliga monopolen i syfte att maximera vinsten och samtidigt maximera förlusterna så lagligt som möjligt på andra sidan.

Dessutom en central BIG DATA-resurs (WTF!) Som är fritt tillgänglig för staten

Plus (nästan avslappnad genom bakdörren) organiserade tillgång till de stora icke-krypto-e-plånböckerna samtidigt som anonymitet elimineras när det gäller ekonomiska transaktioner.

Spelarskydd? Allvarlig? Nightingale ick höra dig fälla.

That sounds harsh. Did they really decrease the RTP so players actually win less than before?

yes. but the permission to do so came from Malta. published on 28.05.2021: "The amendment consists in the lowering of the existing minimum RTP percentage (applicable to operators offering their games online) from ninety-two per cent (92%) to eighty-five per cent (85%)."

so this is by far not only a topic for german players. many provider began already to offer RTP reduced variants of their slots. Push was one of the latest.

it needs seriously some notes by Casino Guru about this development, so the gambling community takes an advantage (and if its just a second look regarding the RTP version) of the provided information.

P.S: the mga's justification for this step is just as flimsy as that of the german state regarding regulations. 

source: https://www.mga.org.mt/the-mga-streamlines-the-return-to-player-percentage-applicable-to-both-remote-and-land-based-sectors/?fbclid=IwAR1HqpN7ADrPa5fUlsX2i0YIwZiuTeSt0mmtYuABpV_kpNG0xM_ip17HoH4

i find the developments worrying in every respect. it may sound a bit exaggerated, but in my eyes, the state and the "authorities" are explicitly turning the screws in front of everybody's eyes. these are capitalistically motivated decision-making processes that are on the edge of legality and without a democratic decision-making basis. they just put on a little political cosmetics and makeshift camouflage: thats it. I think that's one of the things that makes me so pissed off: that it's not even an artful move or at least clever. or a great show. it's just a cheap trick. but that seems to be enough. 

on the other hand, you can see very well here why players, even if they are the foundation for the whole gambling-circus, don't have a lobby and never will have one. man...

I also noted a development in a bad direction here in the Czech republic after the government applied regulations in 2017. To sum it up, entering the Czech market by getting the official license was so difficult for foreign casinos that ones who really care about their reputation rather withdrew from the market and closed all Czech accounts. On the other hand, there are many bad casinos that don't care about anything, including the players. Those remained open to Czech players.

So instead of giving the players an opportunity to play in great international casinos, they're often forced to play in shady casinos where you're never sure if you get your winnings. Of course, there are very good casinos that still accept the Czech players, but they're rather an exception.

sounds like it's the same in green in many ways. maybe the benefits of such regularities for the legislators differ from country to country. maybe also the hands that wash each other. but one thing is for sure: it's at the expense of the player. he pays for it, one way or another. (and then they talk about player protection - at least here Germany - ridiculous!)

Yes, it was the same case here. I'm not very familiar with the German environment, but I'm convinced that the regulations were done badly here in the Czech rep. due to lack of knowledge of the online gambling environment. I don't believe that the law was prepared by anyone who had any experience with how online casinos work and what the players really need in order to be protected.

i'm not quite sure whether it's really just because the politicians don't have a clue. they most likely don't - the fact, that people completely unfamiliar with the subject, evaluate and regulate very special and specific topics is unfortunately part of everyday politics. usually it's not very noticeable, at least if the affected population group is relatively small, doesn't put up enough resistance (or doesn't know how to stage this resistance in a media-effective way) or if there is no lobby with enough influence and capital.

(just to put my statements in the right perspective: i think that the misguided decisions concerning education policy or, for example, the care sector are far more drastic and worse than gambling issues.).

but the point is, however: the new laws and everything that is attached to them are, in my opinion, very well thought out (as stated in one of the previous posts: Generation of additional funds through taxation, strengthening of the state gambling monopoly, data collection & initialization of various control instances also and especially concerning money transfers). Unfortunately, this is not even an aluhut theory, just a list of facts. 

it doesn't matter at all what the decision makers actually know about the gambling industry or whether they know the gamblers' needs. or if they have an idea of how a meaningful support of gambling addicts (and those at risk) might look like.  because that´s simple not the purpose of the exercise - it never was.

Jag pratade med Kent på Slotwolf via e-post den här veckan.

Alla spel utan tysk licens är blockerade för tyskar där. De hade skickat ett specialerbjudande med 100 gratissnurr för Gold Digger med en insättning på 50 €.

Hur som helst, spelet var äntligen förbjudet .. Och jag var tvungen att stå ut med starburst, vilket inte fungerade rätt heller. Efter mycket fram och tillbaka har det blivit en bok om döda. 🙁 Jag spelade hundra matcher och efter att inte en enda av mina favoritspel gick tillbaka blev jag frustrerad och överförde pengarna tillbaka, som lyckligtvis fungerade direkt.

Slotwolf skrev ett mejl nästa dag där Kent erbjöd mig en 50% cashback på nästa insättning.

Jag sa till honom att jag ångrar det väldigt mycket, men under dessa omständigheter, trots den alltid exemplariska behandlingen av Slotwolf, brukar jag spela någon annanstans där du fortfarande kan spela allt.

Han sa att jag borde ha tålamod och arbeta med en lösning.

.. Skam .. SLOTWOLF var topp

Som jag just märkt på Duxcasino är det mycket värre .. Även de dåliga betsoft-spelen fungerar inte.

Och unikrn har inte tio av de förra mer än 700 i det tyska programmet.

Jag frågar mig samma sak ..

Även om jag skulle klassificera den tyska marknaden som inte exakt liten.

Massor av väl anslutna, rika kunder;

formad av kapitalismen och därför till sin natur benägna att spela.

Jämfört med många andra länder där den värsta fattigdomen dominerar större delen av befolkningen, kan i stort sett alla delta i spel.

Dessutom finns det den underskattade andelen länder där spel är helt förbjudet eller där mycket strikta krav begränsar marknaden extremt, till exempel B i skandinaviska länder.

Yes, I'm really wondering how the German market is going to develop. It looks for now that many casinos simply weren't prepared for this.

Kasinon hade tillräckligt med tid att förbereda sig. Eftersom de nya reglerna trädde i kraft den 15 oktober förra året. Som en prövotid, så att säga.

Åh, jag har en känsla av att det inte kommer att vara mycket mer att komma.

Det har redan reagerats på.

Eller kanske inte

Reaktionen kvarstår ändå.

I know they had time, but I also know how things work in different casinos. For example we recorded many complaints from players who filled their details (including country) when they registered in the casino and after they won, the casino told them that they're from a restricted country.

They easiest solution would be to remove restricted countries from the country list when you register. Then you'd simply know that if your country isn't there, you can't play in the casino. If you choose a different country, it's your fault, because you're obligated to register using correct information about yourself.

Even this simple step as removing restricted countries for the list is a big deal for some casinos. Thus I can imagine that applying changes with regards to the new German law can be quite impossible for some smaller casinos.