Wagerinox Casino – generell diskussion (sida 7)

Ja, du kanske inte kan göra någonting, men kan inte spelarna göra någonting? Finns det inget sätt för spelare att vidta åtgärder mot kasinot? Det finns ingen myndighet på Curacao dit du kan åka. Har du ingen adress eller annat tips till spelarna?

I've done so much as emailed the Curacao licensing company with their business license (see below) ...I also sent a message to the man who signed the certificate after looking him up on Linkedin.

From: Rich Boyce <rboyce212@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:40 PM

Subject: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: <info@curacaolicensing.com>, <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

This company doing business under the name Wagerinox is committing banking fraud and illegally withholding all withdrawal requests for payment they have received. I've been in contact with about 40 other persons who are owed money from this business and they have not paid anyone. It is my belief that they have yet to issue funds to a single customer while they continue to process deposits and collect funds from hundreds of customers. This business is committing fraud and we will continue to seek out every possible legal action available until they either pay their debts or shut down. 

Regards

The players can submit a complaint and if that is unresolved, the safety index of the casino will be lowered. This is the only thing which can be done here, unfortunately. We hope the low safety index will be helpful, at least, in cases like this.

Thank you for your insides and tat you case about others, as well. Hopefully there will be some light at the end of this tunnel.🤞 We are really sorry, that we can not be of any more help here.

I think we have definitive proof of conspiracy to commit fraud.

This email is from the the same "licensing" company that appears on what Wagerinox is claiming to be their gaming license certificate. According to C.I.L. Curaçao Interactive Licensing N.V., neither the casino's website nor the company is known to them. Unless they are lying simply to save face about issuing a license to a business committing securities fraud, then this gaming license was completely falsified and Wagerinox is guilty of a few more crimes than I originally anticipated. I'm still holding onto hope that a few of these people will be held accountable. They messed with the wrong disgruntled gambler this time.

update:

---------- Forwarded message ---------

From: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 2:16 AM

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: Rich Boyce

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Dear Rich, 

Unfortunately it is. We already contacted the management of the company Predicten N.V. informing them of this for their action.

From: Rich Boyce

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:15:10 PM

To: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

So this is a falsified document attached?

Generally speaking, the CIL license is one of the weakest. As you may see, it's just an ordinary pdf document, which is quite easy to alter or forge for anyone these days. 🙁

If I'm not mistaken, you attached this document to emails sent to the CIL representative, and the response was "Unfortunately it is." Am I correct at this point? Thus, I bet it proves the document is not of true origin.

Anyway, I'm forwarding your findings to our dedicated Data Team. The current review says the license is held under CEG and is still, unverifiable.

We'll be in touch with you for further updates.

Hi!

Anything new on your side?

I'm back with a bit of follow-up. We're trying to get an official response from the licensing authority, probably from both. Based on the outcome, the review will be changed accordingly if necessary.

These investigations may be slow, but I'm trying to stay in touch with the process.

Yes, he is confirming that the document is a forgery. I haven't done any additional follow up here unfortunately. I'm in my last week of a 16 month full stack developer course and I've simply been too busy to continue chasing down this casino. It really feels that someone besides a private citizen who had $600 stolen from him should be lead investigator on this. If I'm not mistaken what they're doing would be considered a fairly serous ``crime in most countries, yet even with this knowledge, I can still go on their site right now and deposit money.

Unfortunately our data team has not received any answers yet, so we don't have any kind of update. It is really up to players, many times, to find out more details about an online casinos, simply from their experience by playing there. Other wise it is really difficult to keep up with so so many online casinos all over the world and we are thankful to all the players to help us with it this way. I hope we will be able to find out more soon.

glöm dina pengar du kommer aldrig få dom ingen som kan hjälpa dig, jag väntade i 1,5 månader inget hände ingen hjälp .tips öppna ett casino stjäl folks pengar kör på det är vilda västern råna folk det är laglöst!!!

Ja, jag vet, jag har väntat på 300 euro sedan 3 mars. Men jag har gett upp eftersom jag inte har nerverna för dessa bedragare. Och ja, man kan inte få hjälp eller tips någonstans, vilket är synd.

my friend won on Winsly casino and lucky jungle casino ,lucky jungle casino fast withdraws INSTANT now he is waiting nearly 2 weeks nothing happens all documentation finished.and Winsly casino over a month no payout what happening in this online casino world ,crises?

he is waiting for 850 euros congrats the casinos seams not to responsibility.

best stay away from casinos even licensed casinos fool people because no one cares no regulation BUT the most important is hard verification

jag spelade upp dessa 200 euro jag väntade på verkar vara mycket konstigt nu på sista tiden med

utbetalningar man kan undra vad som är på gång.

Jag frågade varje dag och varje dag fick jag samma svar. Det var inte en människa som svarade, utan en robot, och varje dag samma svar. Jag är trött på det. De borde kvävas av pengarna de stjäl från människor. Ingen här fick sina vinster, INGEN

Months ago I remember seeing people here complain about held withdrawals and it's crazy there are still problems with this site, I gave them the benefit of doubt but now I think we can label it as a scam site, too many complaints

Yes this casino is not paying any of it's customers. It amazes me they haven't been shut down. We still have yet to confirm any players receiving funds from this casino...at least I haven't. And I tried for about 4 months to find someone.

It seems this casino has never paid anyone at all, all complaints turned out unsolved which just means the users filing them never got paid. This is not the first scam casino and certainly not the last one, there are many of them

Du kan spela så högt du vill, du kommer inte att få pengarna. Detta är vad min historia säger 3.3.

It's sad that there are such casinos, but unfortunately we probably won't be able to avoid them. I have looked at their safety index (3,3) and I have also seen a warning that they do not try to cooperate with us and do not respond to complaints. So that's probably not the way to go either because all that will happen is that the casino's safety index will be lowered. Of course, at the very least, I would recommend a complaint, but it probably won't solve anything. I'm sorry you played in such a casino and I hope it won't happen again. 🙁