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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (sida 91)

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BettyBetty
1 år sedan
gbse

same explanation as in previous messages I've seen being recommended in the thread! I mentioned that the transactions are illegal as it contains a merchant code that also bypasses blocks set on cards in relation to gambling transactions and I have not received any service from them.. has anyone else experienced this?? I need HELP!

palma
1 år sedan
segb

Jag väntar på min bank ska kontakta mig TÅLMODIGT…jag funderar på att göra det själv innan dom gör det. Sålänge du har varit ärlig så ska du inte va orolig. Kommer du inte åt ditt bankkonto nu eller? Och har du skickat med filer och att du kontaktar företagen

1 år sedan
gbse

The money that we have received from the casino, they can ask us to return it, just as we are asking for money for a service that we have not consumed, apart from the fact that they can report us for attempted fraud..

efsfasfasfsfs
1 år sedan
segb

Jag hoppas ju att ingen är så sjuk att man gör en chargeback ifrån ett casino som ändå har betalt ut vinsterna.

palma
1 år sedan
gbse

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

1 år sedan
gbse

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

1 år sedan
gbse

No, but doing so in order to bypass laws prohibiting illegal online gambling is illegal.

BettyBetty
1 år sedan
segb

Han mena nog att han inte har köpt varor ifrån dom. Och det är ju sant.

1 år sedan
gbse

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

1 år sedan
segb

Jo det är illegalt att verka som 3part om inte huvudbutikens namn står i anslutning direkt före eller efter 3part

1 år sedan
segb

Altså där finns ingenting som kan ursäkta det dom har gjort. Om så vore fallet så skulle inte merchant koden för spel varit blockerad

Golfforesite
1 år sedan
gbse

Yes -in the country of jurisdiction. But If the casino is not licensed in that country, it would be very hard to charge them with anything. Especially since 99,9% of all unlicensed casinos T&Cs state that it is the players responsibility to conduct to any local laws and regulations prohibiting gambling.

Ändrad
1 år sedan
gbse

no matter how you twist and turn it, it still looks like money laundering through the majority of these companies, maybe not all, but a large part.

Anonymized641
1 år sedan
segb

Fast det är inte det som man säger när man väljer att göra en kortreklamationen av anledningen att man inte har "received any goods/services". Det man säger är att man inte mottagit den vara eller tjänst man köpt. Vilket man tyvärr har, om man mottagit casinoinsättningen.

BettyBetty
1 år sedan
segb

Hon på banken sa. Om inte alla alternativ finns med så kan man förklara det i en pdf fil istället

1 år sedan
segb

Sen så köper man inte en tjänst "legal services i Afrika" men det är en casinoinsättnig. Det går inte hand i hand hehehe

huddy
1 år sedan
gbse

Thank you for that clarification.

I see that you are from UK -can you please explain what "gambling blocks" refers too, formally? In Sweden we are not able to block ourselves via our Banks against gambling transactions, why I wonder if it would be considered the same here. It either isnt illegal to play at unlicensed casinos.

Anonymized641
1 år sedan
segb

Kan du referera till vilken lag/paragraf som de bryter mot? Det skulle vara toppen om du har rätt.

1 år sedan
gbse

In the end, at least in my case, I have been given the OK to carry out these transactions.


And what they are trying to do is a fraud because we have received that money from the casino. I am not on one side or the other but I am afraid that the casino will make me return the money that I have received from them just as I ask the merchant to return it to me.

efsfasfasfsfs
1 år sedan
segb

Är du rädd ?

Lucid_1337
1 år sedan
gbse

I totally agree, and I am certain that 99% of these casinos are connected to all kind of criminal activity and money laundering. But keep in mind that financial criminality is something that all governments with numerous employed lawyers, financial experts etc. battle every day but even for them it is hard to get to these companies. So whatever you and me feel/think we cant just go to the bank and say "hey, these guys are money laundering scum bags and therefor I have the right to get my deposit backs". It doesnt work that way even of it would be fantastic if it would.

palma
1 år sedan
segb

Jag blev inte kontaktad ,har swedbank .

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