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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (sida 885)

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A little warning here for the CG Community: Casino Guru is an open platform where everyone is free to share their thoughts and opinions. We believe in free speech and try to be as non-restrictive as possible. That said, please remember: just because something is posted on the forum doesn’t mean Casino Guru agrees with it or endorses it in any way. We’re really happy to see players engaging in conversations, debating respectfully, and having fun doing so! That’s why we created this platform. However, we’ve noticed a growing trend – not just here, but across other platforms too – where some players, after losing money fairly in a casino, look for ways to get those funds back through their bank or payment provider, often by filing chargebacks or making false claims. We’d like to warn you: this behaviour is not only unfair – it’s also very risky! We’ve already seen and heard stories (here and elsewhere) of people who got into serious trouble trying to go down this route – including closed casino accounts across multiple platforms, closed bank accounts, debts, and even lawsuits (attempted fraud). Attempting fraud or misrepresenting the truth to a bank or provider is never a good idea and could have lasting consequences. So here’s our friendly appeal to all Casino Guru community members: Stand up against unfair and dishonest casinos. Use our Complaints Resolution Center if you need help – you don’t have to fight alone. But please don’t try to get back money you’ve fairly lost. It’s simply not worth the risk. Thanks for being part of our community – and have a great day!
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Mrsmithers
6 månader sedan
gbse

They can't, they'd have to send a representative to whatever country the customer is in and admit to using third party vendors, violating numerous laws across multiple jurisdictions etc, worst thing that can happen is CIFAS from the banks but that can be overturned with sufficient evidence, even then that would lead to banks investigating the merchants/casinos

6 månader sedan
gbse

You can't because when you pay by card they seem to vary who they use. Unless you can guarantee it's DSOLPAY you're running a very risky game - and still would be anyway. Best option is to stay as far away from them as possible

6 månader sedan
gbse

DSOLPAY is not the only processor that issues refunds, there a plenty especially when going down the goods not received. For example say you bought an Xbox from them and it’s not received they won’t be able to provide any tracking number or POD image.


you can also make fake invoices online for the order confirmation. You can definitely get refunds but using templates here and just expecting the casino or provider to refund you after one is email isn’t going to happen.

Jamieredling
6 månader sedan
gbse

I was naive and thought honesty would be the best policy, learning curve i guess, can't reopen unfortunately. 100%, best move is to not gamble

6 månader sedan
gbse

Has anyone went down the legal route with any of these casinos? Sent a solicitors letter or anything?

sw18jp raderade inlägget.
6 månader sedan
gbse

Dear Players,


Santeda pride ourselves on providing a fair, transparent, and regulated gaming experience to all our customers. Our platform operates in full compliance with industry regulations and offers legitimate services based on established terms and conditions.

We want to remind all users that chargeback claims for losses incurred through legitimate gameplay are considered fraudulent actions. Any attempt to reverse payments after services have been rendered, regardless of the outcome, is not only a violation of our terms but also an abuse of the chargeback system.

Please be aware that we take any fraudulent activity seriously. Those found attempting chargebacks in bad faith may face immediate account suspension, legal action, and the involvement of relevant financial institutions to resolve the dispute.

We encourage all users to review our terms and conditions carefully and to reach out to customer support for any concerns.

Sincerely,


Santeda B.V.

Santeda
6 månader sedan
gbse

If this is the real Santeda, which i highly doubt it is, your casinos are unlicensed, there is no regulation, you use third parties to process transactions, which is a violation of data protection laws. You have a history of legal difficulties due to the way your casinos operate. You don't even have a public address for your offices.

Santeda
6 månader sedan
segb

Alltid denna skrämselpropaganda, konstigt man inte hört om ett enda fall där casinot tagit vidare fallet till domstol i dessa fall om dom nu har så rätt som dom säger.


Denna tråden har endå hållt på ett tag och det är massa människor som fått chargeback.


Det enda som händer är att dom stänger ens konto och säljer vidare ens uppgifter, det märkts pga allt email spam och sms man får.


Om det verkligen är Santeda bakom kontot så var vänliga att betala tillbaka alla mina insättningar till alla era casino, har redan anmält er till alla myndigheter som finns.


Mvh Johannes Möller

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Santeda
6 månader sedan
gbse

If Santeda International B.V. really operates in "full compliance with industry regulations," then you should have no issue confirming which authority issued your licence and providing the licence number.


It’s also misleading to claim that all chargeback requests are fraudulent. Chargebacks are a statutory consumer right when services are misrepresented, withdrawals are blocked, or the true merchant identity is hidden behind unrelated processors.


And let’s be clear: if you are operating unlicensed, your terms and conditions are irrelevant. Consumer protection laws override them, and customers are not bound by unenforceable agreements.


Threatening players with "legal action" for exercising their rights looks more like intimidation than transparency. A genuinely regulated operator would openly publish its licence, comply with exclusion schemes like GAMSTOP, and process withdrawals fairly. Until that happens, claims of being "fair and transparent" don’t hold weight.


Daveplatt raderade inlägget.
sw18jp
6 månader sedan
gbse

Email sent

6 månader sedan
gbse

Dear Players,


Santeda pride ourselves on providing a fair, transparent, and regulated gaming experience to all our customers. Our platform operates in full compliance with industry regulations and offers legitimate services based on established terms and conditions.

We want to remind all users that chargeback claims for losses incurred through legitimate gameplay are considered fraudulent actions. Any attempt to reverse payments after services have been rendered, regardless of the outcome, is not only a violation of our terms but also an abuse of the chargeback system.

Please be aware that we take any fraudulent activity seriously. Those found attempting chargebacks in bad faith may face immediate account suspension, legal action, and the involvement of relevant financial institutions to resolve the dispute.

We encourage all users to review our terms and conditions carefully and to reach out to customer support for any concerns.

Sincerely,


Santeda B.V.

6 månader sedan
gbse

Hahahaha!!! This is surely a p*ss take?


"Regulated gaming experience", "full compliance with industry regulations" - you accept UK customers! and UK customers on GAMSTOP!


"Immediate account suspension" - I think most here would be pleased with that at this stage


And finally, good luck taking legal action action...

6 månader sedan
gbse

If this is the real Santeda, which i highly doubt it is, your casinos are unlicensed, there is no regulation, you use third parties to process transactions, which is a violation of data protection laws. You have a history of legal difficulties due to the way your casinos operate. You don't even have a public address for your offices.

6 månader sedan
gbse

We want to assure all of our valued players that our casino operates under a valid and recognized license. We are fully committed to providing a secure and responsible gaming environment. Our operations are regulated by the relevant authorities, and we maintain the highest standards of fairness and transparency.

You can verify our official licensing status through the following link: View License Certificate

We are committed to transparency and the integrity of our services. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to reach out to our customer support team.

Thank you for choosing us as your trusted online casino!

Glamors12 raderade inlägget.
6 månader sedan
gbse

We want to assure all of our valued players that our casino operates under a valid and recognized license. We are fully committed to providing a secure and responsible gaming environment. Our operations are regulated by the relevant authorities, and we maintain the highest standards of fairness and transparency.

You can verify our official licensing status through the following link: View License Certificate

We are committed to transparency and the integrity of our services. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to reach out to our customer support team.

Thank you for choosing us as your trusted online casino!

6 månader sedan
gbse

As you've come to a public forum, could you explain three things:


  1. Are you legally allowed to accept UK customers given you are not a UK licensed operator?
  2. Why do you allow customers with an active GAMSTOP to play?
  3. Why are all your card and bank transfer payments directed through all sorts of murky merchants with wrong MCCs etc?
6 månader sedan
gbse

That’s so nice to see how they are afraid that even coming to this public chat 😅😅

6 månader sedan
gbse

Hahahaha they must be getting rinsed by the chargebacks. We must be making a dent into their millions and millions of profit from vulnerable people who they deceive along with the banks.

6 månader sedan
gbse

Hahahaha they must be getting rinsed by the chargebacks. We must be making a dent into their millions and millions of profit from vulnerable people who they deceive along with the banks.

6 månader sedan
gbse

I'd imagine we're surfacing some issues to some of their payment providers that they didn't know about too (i.e. didn't know this was all going on and their infrastructure was being used for this)

Santeda
6 månader sedan
gbse

If Santeda were truly fair, transparent, and regulated, you’d be licensed by the UK Gambling Commission and your payments wouldn’t hide under random merchant names.Your ‘terms and conditions’ mean nothing here because unlicensed casinos cannot legally operate in the UK. Players are within their rights to file chargebacks when transactions are misleading or unlawful. Threats of ‘legal action’ from an offshore company carry no weight in the UK. This just proves chargebacks are working — otherwise you wouldn’t be here trying to scare people.


6 månader sedan
gbse

Refunded in full for NIKOPF-FAQSOLUTIONS

Don’t give up guys. Use the money towards a better future without gambling, I certainly will be. If you want templates for any other operators or just need a hand let me know I’ll help for free. These crooks won’t win.

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