Åh, så lite som Los Pollos Hermanos i showen Breaking Bad, en verkligt fungerande kycklingbutik som frontar ett meth-labb.
Men i det här fallet en skinsajt som ligger framför ett tvivelaktigt kasino?
Oh, so a bit like Los Pollos Hermanos in the show Breaking Bad, an actual functioning chicken shop fronting a meth lab.
But in this case a skins site fronting a dodgy casino?
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The site will sell skins and stuff, absolutely, but they will also have an agreement in the background with said dodgy casino on card payments. Essentially using the skins sites merchant account to hide the true nature of the payment.
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Tman11
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Om ett företag byter betalningsbehandlare eller använder ett annat företagsnamn för att behandla din betalning, är detta deras bedrägliga aktivitet, där pengar kan återvinnas?
If a company change payment processor or use a different company name to process your payment, is this their fraudulent activity, where funds are recoverable?
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Depends. Some companies have a different name on payments. It all comes down to what goods were purchased and what codes were used to process the payment. So for gambling, regulated goods, if it isn't the 7995 or equivalent gambling code then it's not coded correctly and therefore fraudulent.
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Why don't they get their own account to process payments though?
Gambling isn't illegal?
I don't gamble so I know stuff all about it apart from a fiver on the grand national once a year or on England getting anywhere in the Euros to make it more fun.
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Thanks, seems odd they would use a different company name outside of their own. Has anyone identified the MCC on their revolut statements?
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Anonymized847
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Hi mate. Just wondering if you had that info to email. cheers for your help. lewisthenorth@gmail.com
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Educated_ant
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1 år sedan
Is terraverse definitely 100% Donbet? Has that been proven?
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Rodney_Trotter
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Varför får de inte ett eget konto för att hantera betalningar?
Spelande är inte olagligt?
Jag spelar inte så jag kan allt om det förutom en femma på Grand National en gång om året eller om att England kommer någonstans i EM för att göra det roligare.
Why don't they get their own account to process payments though?
Gambling isn't illegal?
I don't gamble so I know stuff all about it apart from a fiver on the grand national once a year or on England getting anywhere in the Euros to make it more fun.
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It's legal if it is licencsed. These sites are offshore and don't have the requirement to be able to take gambling payments from UK debit and credit cards - so they hide the payments as shopping or something else under different company names bypassing the automated blocks in place and breaking the rules of both Visa and Mastercard. It's a huge issue.
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Hej kompis. Undrar bara om du hade den informationen att mejla. hurra för din hjälp.
Hi mate. Just wondering if you had that info to email. cheers for your help. lewisthenorth@gmail.com
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Sorry bud - ill get back to you on that asap
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Yesterday someone posted a screenshot of Falcora Finance payment being blocked and returned by their bank. Has anyone got that? I didn't manage to screenshot it in time but it would be really helpful for me proving the criminal activity Falcora/Santeda is undergoing with my claim against my bank.
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I haven't gone through everything as there is too much to go through. To me it sounds like you are all trying to commit first party fraud as you knowling agreed to make these payments. What difference does the merchant have to do with anything?
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Jag har inte gått igenom allt eftersom det är för mycket att gå igenom. För mig låter det som att ni alla försöker begå förstapartsbedrägerier eftersom ni vet att ni gick med på att göra dessa betalningar. Vilken skillnad har handlaren med någonting att göra?
I haven't gone through everything as there is too much to go through. To me it sounds like you are all trying to commit first party fraud as you knowling agreed to make these payments. What difference does the merchant have to do with anything?
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First party fraud 🤣. Another plant from dodgy casino. The rules have literally been stated over and over and I won't state them again. These are REGULATED and RESTRICTED goods - they cannot be misrepresented and that's exactly what the casinos are doing. Why hide behind a Nigerian Bookseller for gambling payments otherwise?
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Hi can someone please help me with contact information for buton - I can only find a website with a contact form and they don’t reply ! Thanks
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Ahhh so all of these none Gamstop casinos I have played on, that I have agreed to make a payment to this merchat that the bank is asking me if this is me as this could be a scam, I can possibly claim these back?
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Ahhh så alla dessa inga Gamstop-kasinon jag har spelat på, att jag har gått med på att göra en betalning till denna merchat som banken frågar mig om det här är jag eftersom detta kan vara en bluff, kan jag möjligen kräva tillbaka dessa?
Ahhh so all of these none Gamstop casinos I have played on, that I have agreed to make a payment to this merchat that the bank is asking me if this is me as this could be a scam, I can possibly claim these back?
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Potentially yes. Read the thread. Literally Visa and Mastercard are investigating the issue at the moment.
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Rex112
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1 år sedan
Hi
Does anyone know who or what "Vxradr london " is?
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So nobody is going to their bank directly then? The banks have the tools to check if first party fraud is been commited. I know because I used to work with banks investigating fraud when the customer making contact regarding transactions.
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I made a deposit to Betmac casino using my Visa Debit Card, but the Merchant is EHEFEDDY GLOBAL SE. I understood at the time this was for Bet Mac but under some dodgy transaction name. The money did reach my Bet Mac account within seconds.
Is this something that Visa are happy to investigate then?
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Someone.Else
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1 år sedan
ZoloBet also use dodgy merchants, but then, have good review on this site.
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Someone.Else
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Så ingen går direkt till sin bank då? Bankerna har verktygen för att kontrollera om förstapartsbedrägerier har begåtts. Jag vet eftersom jag brukade arbeta med banker och utreda bedrägerier när kunden tar kontakt angående transaktioner.
So nobody is going to their bank directly then? The banks have the tools to check if first party fraud is been commited. I know because I used to work with banks investigating fraud when the customer making contact regarding transactions.
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Everyone is going to their banks directly! Chargeback attempts are being made on the basis that the payments are false and for regulated goods that were not received. The main point is that these casinos should not be accepting anything from players in the UK or other jurisdictions where they are not licenced to do so.
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1 år sedan
interesting. Sounds like I could have a few quid to claim back. Cheers